52 Cups of Coffee: 417 Edition - Cup 10/52 - Dr. Lyle Foster
Rhett Roberson, MAOP
Organizational Psychology MA | Mindfulness Teacher | Aspiring Good Human Being
After hearing about the book 52 Cups of Coffee on a Podcast, I thought it sounded like a great opportunity to connect to people in my community. Initially, my plan was to just have coffee once a week with someone I know. I was thinking of friends, family members, or colleagues with whom I could spend some quality time. But the opportunity to engage with my community is always in the back of my mind. So I thought it might be interesting to ask the same set of questions to a diverse cast of influential and interesting people in the 417 area and share them here on my LinkedIn page. At the end of the year, who knows what we'll have... at the very least it's 52 interesting conversations. It's a loose plan. I don't have any real intentions and I think that's the beauty of it. Curiosity. Community. And a chance to learn a little bit from each person. A big thanks to the folks at Travellers House Coffee & Tea for being willing to provide a place to chat and several cups of coffee throughout the year!
**I don't like taking notes while having coffee and conversation so I've trusted Otter to do the transcribing. Any editing issues are my own. I'm not a professional. :) I've included a list of books we discuss throughout the conversation at the bottom.
Dr. Lyle Foster - 10/52
Dr. Lyle Foster is not just a community staple, but a pillar of the community. He is an entrepreneur with a passion for the revitalization of the Commercial Street community. He is the owner of one of my favorite coffee shops in town, Big Momma's. I'm changing the graphic this week to reflect that and that's where we chose to meet! He is an activist, a professor of sociology, a community leader, winner of the Missouri State University Board of Governors' Excellence in Public Affairs Award, and while that's all pretty awesome, for those that have had the opportunity to spend time with Lyle, you know that above all else, he genuinely cares about people. Lyle has been a consistent supporter in my life for exactly no reason at all, other than that is just who Lyle is. When I started Paramita Consulting , Lyle was one of the first to help me get rolling. He offered a space for me to hone my craft, and finish up a certification I was working on at the time. I'm certain that there are numerous similar stories about Lyle floating around the 417 community. Needless to say, I'm a fan. Lyle and I sat down over lunch at Big Mommas for a great discussion. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
Rhett Roberson?
The kickoff question is What is the CliffsNotes version of the story of Lyle Foster??
Lyle Foster?
I would describe it as "Love people. Love community." I believe in the possibility of every creation. I believe that they can be everything that they possibly would want to be. If they, I'm not going to say set their minds to it, but if they open to the possibilities of it.?
Rhett Roberson?
You moved to Springfield after, let's see if I can get this right, you were visiting for a graduation? And then saw the Commercial Street property??
Lyle Foster?
You're close, my daughter played college basketball and I was visiting for a Drury University basketball game. I bumped into Commercial Street on that visit and really saw the potential for what Commercial Street could be. At the same time, I was on a personal quest. My philosophy, Rhett, was when cities become hot and popping and booming, they're much too expensive to access because they're such desirable destinations. It's hard to get in. So, I was trying to deliberately locate places that 5 to 10 years in the future were going to be destinations. Trying to get in, as we often say, on the ground floor. Honestly, I had picked Kansas City. (laughs) Particularly the Crossroads District. I had actually met some people up there to talk and kicked a few tires. But when I came down for the basketball game, I also saw Commercial Street. I thought it'd be a little bit longer term play, if you will, but I loved the lofts, I loved the vibrancy, I loved the friendliness of the people. And it definitely was a little bit warmer than Chicago!?
Rhett Roberson?
Did you grow up in Chicago??
Lyle Foster?
No, I grew up in the great Commonwealth of Virginia. In the Historic Triangle, very close to Williamsburg, Yorktown, and Jamestown. Where it all began, as they often say. I don't like to say where it all began, because there was life here, there were people here minding their own business, but where this phase of the United States of America began.?
Rhett Roberson?
Sure! Gotcha. And at what age, and for what reason did you end up in Chicago??
Lyle Foster?
I had gone to college, to grad school, and like many people do after grad school, followed the first job opportunity and the first opportunity was actually in Chicago. I was young, exploratory, open to ideas and possibilities. Chicago was a little bit bigger city than I was looking to land in. I had gone to undergrad in parts of the Midwest, but I hadn't really lived in Chicago. So, I was open. You never know, when you move somewhere, how long the ride is going to last but that's how I ended up in Chicago.?
Rhett Roberson?
Gotcha. And you have a daughter and a son.?
Lyle Foster?
A daughter and a son.?
Rhett Roberson?
A son who I'm good friends with.?
Lyle Foster?
Yes.?
Rhett Roberson?
Larnelle lives here in town and your daughter is in Dallas, right??
Lyle Foster?
She's in the Dallas Metro, yes.?
Rhett Roberson?
I thought that was right. Fantastic. Well, that covers the basics. (laughs) The next question is, and I guess, potentially is part of that discussion, what brings you joy??
Lyle Foster?
What brings me joy? I think fundamentally, I believe that joy is something you've got to have as a foundation. I make a? distinction between these ideas: things can make you happy, but joy is just kind of an attitude. Waking up each morning brings me joy. I might get a little emotional, man. A snowflake on a winter's day brings me joy. Seeing a family with a stroller and a little baby and sometimes a pet going down the sidewalk brings me joy. A beautiful sunset, on Commercial Street looking west, that brings me joy. Also, the accomplishments of my children. I mean, they're adults, but I still sometimes use that word. I don't always know what word to use when children become adults. I think seeing people accomplish goals, seeing new possibilities, seeing things come to life on Commercial Street, people opening up small businesses and living out their dream. Those things bring me joy. I think I've learned to find joy in a lot of things. After a cold winter, or any winter, I look for the first sign of a crocus coming out of the ground. The first tulip that blooms, the first daffodil, the flowers. That brings me joy. I look at my plants in the morning and I see that a new leaf is coming out. The vibrancy of life brings me joy.?
Rhett Roberson?
That's a beautiful answer. You do a lot in the community. You're on the CID, the Commercial Street Improvement District board, you teach at the university, you own the business that we're currently hanging out in, to name a very few number of the things that you do. I assume that the busyness requires you to have moments of recharge. What do you do when you need to recharge??
Lyle Foster?
Travel, for me, is an opportunity to recharge. Going to new places, getting fresh ideas, seeing how people live in other communities, seeing what communities are currently engaged in. That's certainly a bit of a recharge. Music brings me recharge. I may not always look like it, but I go to a trainer a couple times a week. That's a recharge for me just simply trying to make my arms and legs do something to keep them moving.?
Rhett Roberson?
You're looking good these days! I told you when we ran into you recently. Me and my daughter, speaking of pushing a stroller, I was pushing her through the Hy-Vee in the pink racecar cart.?
Lyle Foster?
Yes, and that was joyful.?
Rhett Roberson?
I told you then, you're looking good!?
Lyle Foster?
I'm trying. All of those kinds of things recharge me. Probably one of my favorite recharges from Springfield, often is just to sit outside on Commercial Street and to reminisce what it was like 16-17 years ago, when maybe you weren't sitting outside on Commercial. You just watch people going by - people watching. That's a recharge. I'm a film lover. I like to go to movies. I'm bad for movie business because my favorite thing to do at a movie, I shouldn't say this publicly probably, is actually have the theater to myself. I like to get a nice big thing of buttered popcorn, kick my shoes off, kick my feet up on the next seat, and stretch out like I'm on the sofa at home. Sometimes I'll get on the phone and talk to my kids, and they'll say, "What are you doing?" "I'm watching a movie." "Where?" "I'm at the theater." "Why are you talking?"?
Rhett Roberson?
(Laughs)?
Lyle Foster?
It's just me, the screen, and 100 seats. So that's a recharge!?
Rhett Roberson?
I love that. I can only imagine Larnelle laying into you on the phone.
Lyle Foster?
But I convinced him, I tried to show him, that nobody else was in the theater. It'd be like a Wednesday night, the last show, but it's just fun. It's like my own private screening. I realize you can rent out a theater and have that, but watching a good film, watching a good story, I really do love that.
Rhett Roberson?
Yeah. Very cool. How would your colleagues describe you??
Lyle Foster?
Probably a mess.?
Rhett Roberson
(laughs)
Lyle Foster
I'm full of ideas. I always critique myself by saying that I'm a person, I don't know why, I wish I wasn't like this, I can come into a room, particularly in terms of business, and I can find the one thing that I feel is out of place. I mean as soon as I walk in the door, I don't even know what that is.?I used to be an administrator in a nonprofit and I'd come into the office, someone might be typing a document or a proposal I would just walk by, "Oh, that next paragraph, the second line, those two words are misspelled." or "That's not what I said." They're looking like,? "You just walked in." I think people might think that it's being critical, but I think it's me hoping that we can have a standard of excellence. I think people would say that I'm somewhat outgoing, I'm friendly, I care. But I think people would also say that I'm driven, in the sense that I work seven days a week. And I'm never moved by what may be, and by that I mean, somebody calls and says "Hey, we've got 50 people coming." The crew might say "Oh, that's going to be too many!" I'm like, first of all 50 people are not going to show up. Second, that's why we're here. We can accommodate them. Number three, let's figure out how to get it done. Not everybody likes that, but I'm looking at the bottom line. That's how you stay open. That's how you stay alive. Like I always jokingly say, that's the reason why some of the national franchises always have lines because it takes lines to pay the bills.?
Rhett Roberson?
This next one is kind of a loaded question because you do a lot of different kinds of work, but the question is can you describe the work that you do??
Lyle Foster?
The work that I do. I don't know if you know, Rhett, I've coined the name for myself and that name is a communitypreneur. That's my way of combining community and entrepreneurs. That's the work I do. I'm using an entrepreneurial lens, an entrepreneurial overview, to help build community. From a business standpoint, I'm definitely all about building communities. My teaching work is still about building community. Missouri State University is a wonderful learning community and my classroom, hopefully it's somewhat of a learning community. Part of that learning is to help students think of things in ways they've never thought about them before. To help them come up with new ideas, to think for themselves, even to question, to wonder, and hopefully think about what their contribution can be to our society. To continue to improve the world as we know it today. I think that's kind of, at the core of what my being is. I think my experiences on Commercial Street, with the Commercial Street merchants, the CID that you referenced, have always been about determining how do we raise, generally, the whole bar of Commercial Street so that businesses, loft dwellers, entrepreneurs, artists, artisans, makers, all of them can be successful? And how this can actually be a national destination. So, I think casting vision is also part of that. Giving people the hope that we can be a lot more than we ever could imagine. We can either be that little street on the north side of Springfield, or we can be something that people visit and say "Have you been to that cool, historic district in that town called Springfield? It's really a great place to go visit."?
Rhett Roberson?
Yeah. Yeah, that's very cool and you really are a champion for that. How did you get into your line of work? Or your LINES of work??
Lyle Foster?
Pretty much like other people do. When I went to undergrad my mother was a school teacher. I think one of her gifts to me has always been being involved. My mother was always involved doing things that me and my brother thought were eclectic, sometimes even eccentric, but I look back and know it's because she cared for people, and she also sacrificed. I always went to college, university, thinking that I wanted to help people. My first foray was thinking I wanted to be an attorney, a lawyer. And about halfway through I realized, I hate to say this for people who are in the legal business, because it's not true for all things, but I realized that part of law was sometimes representing people who may have done some very horrible things. Of course, they do deserve a good attorney, but you can be a good attorney and get a person who has done some mean stuff set free. I started feeling like that wasn't quite what I wanted to do. So, I went into sociology and urban studies education as a way of helping to improve people's lives. My first goal was to be in human services, social services, and I worked in the nonprofit sector. I really loved the nonprofit sector and I respect it tremendously, because it really provides, in many cases, a helping hand to people who need it. It helps to open up people's lives to new possibilities. It helps people to survive. The agency that I worked for was really about meeting the basic human needs for survival and that was very important to me. But of course, I also got to see some of the shortcomings of the nonprofit sector and the limitations of it, if you will. And how a society like the United States, which is a capitalist one, how we ultimately operate. I think I did somewhat back into entrepreneurship as a natural outgrowth. And believe it or not, Rhett, that was actually a spiritual teaching that I learned. This notion of in the Garden of Eden, there were many streams, and that it's good to not put all of your eggs in one basket. I've always wanted to teach full-time in a university, but it was always for another stage of my life. So, I've always done adjunct teaching. When I was in Chicago, at different colleges and universities, and when I came to Springfield, the opportunity to be a professor at Missouri State opened up. That was just a natural extension of what I've always done as well, but I hadn't just done it full time.?
Rhett Roberson?
Sure! And I'm going to butcher this, you'll have to remind me of the academic progression at Missouri State. I'll mess it up. You are an associate professor and on the tenure track??
Lyle Foster?
Rhett, I'm nothing.?
Rhett Roberson?
(Laughs heartily at the humble understatement of the week)?
Lyle Foster?
I'm just a little pilgrim going through the journey. I started off as an instructor, which in academia, is entry level one. I didn't have a terminal degree. I've actually gone back to college and universities two different times as a grown adult. How and why I did that I still cannot figure it out, but I did go back to do my doctorate. I don't know, about 10 years ago, eight years ago, and when you get your doctorate, you can be put on the tenure track. Your rank is considered to be an assistant professor. I was an assistant professor on the tenure track, and at least the university has told me, that I've now been promoted to an associate professor and have received tenure, but that gets the final seal of approval sometime over the summer of 2024. That's kind of the next little step. I'm very grateful and accept it for what it is, but my identity is really being an educator. That's just how academia works with all of the titles. I don't let it... (laughs) I don't let it totally define me. I don't wake up in the morning worried about "Am I in the system? Am I associate or full on emeritus?" I'm just the person trying to teach and make a difference.?
Rhett Roberson?
I appreciate you helping me through that! I knew I was going to mess up the movements.?
Lyle Foster?
No, that's okay. And please note that I'm not saying that, in an effort to try to have a false humility. It's honestly how I feel. When you talk about joy in life, we talk about who you are, your CliffsNotes, I try not to let the titles and the job accolades define who I am. Because sometimes people come to me, like in Springfield, often people ask you what church you go to, and often that is to categorize people. I really believe in the value of inclusion. So, my name is Lyle. Not Dr. Lyle. Just Lyle, brother Lyle, just Lyle. Because if you get to know me, we'll find out more things later. I don't want to lead with all of those things, because sometimes it can be offensive. We can put people off. I want to just know people as their raw selves. Who they are, what they are, and we can just go through life together. If you never find out that I teach, that's fine. In the early days of Big Momma's people would see me out in front and they're like, "Are you the cook?", I'm like, "Yes!" It just wasn't that important to me. If you stick around you'll find out some other attributes and I think that's fun. It's fun not getting to know all about a person in the first 15 minutes.?
Rhett Roberson?
Yeah, absolutely. I know you to be a humble leader, and to speak with humility, and you won't call yourself that, but I can I can do for you!?
Lyle Foster?
(laughs) Well, thank you.?
Rhett Roberson?
You've certainly been an influential leader in my life, and I know there are a ton of people in this community that would say the same thing. When it comes to you, though, who is the best boss or leader that has been great to you and what made them great??
Lyle Foster?
Great question. I guess I will say, what I call ancestors, and ancestors are people who paved the way before. My mother was a leader. My mother was certainly somebody who taught me a lot that I put a lot of value and a lot of stock in. But I'd also call on some leaders, not the people that you read about the history books, but people in our community. Denny Whayne, who's no longer with us. Cheryl Clay, who's kind of a stir up, I love to hear Cheryl stir up. (laughs) H. Wes Pratt, J.D. , John Oke-Thomas . Those are people I really value as community leaders. I've learned a lot from them. I always refer to them as gatekeepers, people who have paid their dues in terms of community service, in terms of who and what has made Springfield. I think there have been some leaders in history and I look at some of their writings and I think, "How did they do that?" People like Frederick Douglass who stood for the abolition of slavery and made that stake. I'm just thinking, "How on earth did they make that kind of difference?" My mother loves President John Kennedy, as we learn more about him, I wasn't sure, (laughs) but he was a good speech man!? (Former 52 Cups participant Betsy Fogle shows up from behind me) Hey, how you doing? Good to see you.?
Betsy Fogle?
Hey! How are you??
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Rhett Roberson?
Good! He's following in your footsteps here.?
Betsy Fogle?
Do you feel kind of weird? Like, tell me all the personal details in your life!??
Lyle Foster?
Yes, it does, yes it does.?
Rhett Roberson?
(Laughs)?
Lyle Foster?
I saw you on the news the other night speaking truth to power.?
Betsy Fogle?
Oh, thank you so much.?
Lyle Foster?
Yes. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.?
Rhett Roberson?
I got to see her at work last week.?
Lyle Foster?
Oh, really??
Rhett Roberson?
I got to peer over the rail at the Capitol!?
Lyle Foster?
I didn't see you over there! I guess because your back was towards us.?
Betsy's Lunch Guest?
I didn't recognized you, you're looking good!?
Lyle Foster?
Pleeeeeease. Don't even try! How you doing? So good to see you.?
Rhett Roberson?
This is all staying in here by the way.?
Betsy's Lunch Guest?
And you look so much younger.?
Lyle Foster?
Well. Of course, I do. (laughs) Thank you guys. Thanks for coming in. Appreciate it.?
Betsy Fogle?
Good to see you!?
Lyle Foster?
Well, that's what happens when you record at Big Momma's!
Rhett Roberson?
That's right. Let's see if I can get you back to where we were. JFK. Good speech man. There it was.?
Lyle Foster?
Okay. I was just kind of mentioning my mother again, then President Kennedy. (laughs)?
Rhett Roberson?
Yes!?
Lyle Foster?
I like to think about some national leaders. My pastor in Chicago was certainly a role model and a leader that was very influential to me. I just see leadership very much on the local level. People who roll up their sleeves and grit and grind and oftentimes are running nonprofits in our community. Or doing that day-to-day piece where a few people have fallen behind. I love to observe and learn about them.?
Rhett Roberson?
As a child, you grew up in the Commonwealth of Virginia. I'm learning things about you today that I didn't know already! What did you want to be when you grew up??
Lyle Foster?
Well, that's been kind of profound for me because I do believe DNA has got something to do with it. I'll tell a quick story, Rhett. I don't know how long you've allocated for this, but...?
Rhett Roberson?
As much as you'd like!?
Lyle Foster
My mother was a school teacher. And I was always very proud of that, particularly in the era that my mother was a school teacher. That was before Brown versus Board of Education. Schools are still segregated, particularly in the south. She taught in an all black school for much of her life. About 7... 8... 9 years ago, I was going to the birthplace of my mother in Virginia, to the church she was a part of and grew up in. We would go back on special occasions throughout our lives, and I went to visit her grave site. I noticed that in the back of this church in Champlain Virginia, which is where Chris Brown is from, (laughs) there was a small building in the back that looked kind of weird. I remembered there used to be a fellowship hall across the street where we would have dinners and all kinds of great food, but what was this little building? I called my cousin in Washington, DC and I said, "Sandra, what is this little building behind the church? It's just a small little white building." She says, "Lyle, you don't know? The church decided a few years ago to restore the one room schoolhouse. That's where your grandmother taught." And man, very few times in life have I felt like a ton of bricks hit me, but this hit like a ton of bricks. This little one room building, and to think my grandmother had been a teacher there, and to see that restored this building. I just thought, "How did she do that?" In those days you had first grade all the way up to the oldest kid. Sometimes it was eighth or ninth grade, all in one room. To just see that building there and to realize the history. My mother told me not to be a teacher because there's no money in it. But my grandmother was a teacher, my mother was a teacher, and while I may be called professor, I'm a teacher. It's in my DNA. All I knew growing up was that I wanted to help people, but I realized I've always been a teacher.?
Rhett Roberson
I knew I was going to enjoy getting to have this cup of coffee with you. That's an awesome story. Thank you for sharing it. What book has had the most significant impact on your life?
Lyle Foster?
Who Moved My Cheese? You don't know that book. That was out when I was in Chicago, but it was just kind of like a leadership book. It was a little cute book that you could read really fast and it kind of swept the country. It was silly, but it just was the idea to stop doing things the way you've always done them. Because just when you think the cheese is here, it has moved.?Things are changing. Right now, your favorite thing is Netflix, then it turns into Amazon Prime. Things are so fluid, you have to be adaptable. That's a big lesson for me in terms of teaching and in terms of business. You just can't stay where you were five years ago, 10 years ago, you can't get stuck. You've got to be flexible. Generally, leadership books really speak to me, because I'm always looking for a few secrets, if you will, from great leaders. But then ultimately, just the word of God, the Bible.?
Rhett Roberson?
Yep! I've thought about adding a caveat to that. It's like what's your favorite book other than...?
Lyle Foster?
(laughs) Other than the sword!??
Rhett Roberson?
But then I feel like I'm being sacrilegious at that point. So, I don't make the qualifier. To each their own. What's the most important lesson you've learned in life so far??
Lyle Foster?
Don't get stuck in yesterday. Don't get stuck in what you're used to. Look for new opportunities for today. I honestly believe that. I think we've got to be fresh. I think we've got to get up and seize each day and look for the opportunities that each new day presents and provides for us.?
Rhett Roberson?
The good and the bad! Shake off the bad, but also don't get too attached to the good either!?
Lyle Foster?
Yeah. Yeah.?
Rhett Roberson?
What advice would you offer to young professionals entering the workforce??
Lyle Foster?
(Laughs) I would say that the salaries are important, but the salaries are not everything. Find the place that you actually love what you do. That's going to be the key ingredient. I've been super blessed. It sounds crazy sometimes, but I've never had a day that I didn't want to go to work. I don't know how that didn't happen. I've always loved going to wherever I went to work. Some people are like, "I can't wait to the day is over. We got two more hours to go!" I'm more like, "What? I've got so much more to do!" I always like to be engaged. I like the opportunity and the possibilities of work. So, I think for young professionals, it's good to know what you're getting yourself into, but it's also good to believe in what you're doing. It is not just that salary number. I would also say, be kind. Be kind to others. Be a good person. Whatever that means for you, be a good person. We've become so artificial, and we've become so selfish. We've become such an individualized society. What designer brand you have, what kind of car you got, what does that person make? Don't tell anybody, Rhett, but occasionally I watch Love Is Blind. When I hear those interviews in the pods it's just... (laughs) it's curious, it's funny, it's entertaining, but it's also concerning how shallow we can be. And I was just saying, give each other a break and celebrate where you are today. Realize you're not just in it for the day, but you're in it for the long haul.?
Rhett Roberson?
What are you most proud of??
Lyle Foster?
Larnelle and Leah, my kids. That all came from their mom.?
Rhett Roberson?
Yeah, that is a perfect, good, concise answer. And it covers a lot of ground. Final question. How do you hope the world is better for having you??
Lyle Foster?
I don't assume the world is better for having me. That sounds like a really finality type of question! I hate these kinds of questions. They take me back to some tender places, but my mother was a was a singer. And there was a song (Mahalia Jackson - If I Can Help Somebody ) that goes "If I can help somebody, as I travel along, if I can help somebody, with a word or song, if I can help somebody, from doing wrong, no, my living shall not be in vain" That's a nice little segue to say if maybe one person would feel like their life was better because this person was in it. That's also a nice way to think about all the relationships too. Sometimes you've got to trim. You think about where you invest your time, who you spend time with and you have to say, "Am I better? How does that person bring value or bring positivity into my life?" In a reciprocal fashion, I do silly things like, people say to me, "What are you doing for Christmas?" I'm kind of like, I give gifts all year long. I don't have to have a special day. If my heart decides to do something for a person, I'll just do it. It doesn't have to be an occasion. I'm thinking about you, and appreciate you, and I love you. I thought I'd do something you might enjoy. I just want to feel like my presence touched somebody. The staff here at Big Momma's and at the other businesses. I know sometimes that I can be a lot as a business person in terms of what my expectations are, but I hope they know that, from the bottom of my heart, I appreciate the fact that they show up each day. I don't take that for granted. The amount of people that come through these doors, I don't take that for granted. They can go to many other places and get some coffee and get something to eat. I am just so deeply grateful that they want to come here. That the employees here make great food, and they engage, and they do their barista things, and they come here out of all places they could go. I hope they know that I was grateful that they were here. I hope they will feel like life was at least slightly improved because we walked on this journey together for this season.?
Rhett Roberson?
Yeah. Well, this is not just me talking nicely, because I'm going to put out something for people to read. But I would venture to say that in this city the list is pretty long of people that would say their life was at least incrementally better, if not substantially better for your existence.?
Lyle Foster?
That's very kind of you, Rhett. Obviously, there are days that we don't know if we're going forward or backwards. But I don't do any of the things that I do for somebody to notice. I just do them because I think Springfield has a lot of potential. I love Commercial Street and I love the possibilities. I hope we can make just a little bit of difference on the street for a lot of people.?
Rhett Roberson?
It’s a cool place to be and a whole lot different than it was when you first got here. So, thanks for your contributions to the town, to this area, and thanks specifically for taking time to meet with me today. I know you had a busy week.?
Lyle Foster?
My pleasure, bro.?
Rhett Roberson?
I appreciate it.?
Lyle Foster?
You're good people, Rhett. Thank you.?
Rhett Roberson?
Thanks.
Books:
Who Moved My Cheese - Spencer Johnson