Why Your MBA is Worthless

I ignored academics to the point where I almost didn’t graduate from college, and it helped me land my dream job as a result.

My academic awakening (or lack thereof) began three years earlier, as I sat inside a small classroom on our college campus. An editor from the Minneapolis Star Tribune was there to speak to our journalism class on what it took to become a newspaper reporter or editor.

She talked about the importance of understanding the craft, of what it took to be a great reporter and what a big-city newspaper would be looking for in the young, up-and-coming journalists that we aspired to be.

During the ensuing Q&A period, one student asked: “So, how important is your GPA? How closely do editors look at your academic transcripts?”

The editor laughed. And laughed. And laughed.

Finally, she composed herself.

“Put it this way,” she told us. “Nobody ever asked me in a job interview why I got a ‘D’ in French class. Here’s what they care about: Can you write? Can you report? Can you work on deadline? Do you have clips? Have you worked in a newsroom? Do you have references? Those are the things that matter.”

After that class, my entire view of college changed. Instead of sweating tests and textbooks, I went out and worked. I wrote for the student newspaper, got an internship at a local magazine, started writing as a freelancer for small, regional newspapers and begged my college professors to connect me with active journalists who were looking for interns or freelance writers.

Prior to sitting in that class, I’d made the Dean’s List for academic performance. My mom was happy.

After my “awakening,” I never made the Dean’s List again. In fact, my GPA slid so far downhill that I almost didn’t graduate.

My mom was not happy.

But all those hours I’d spent working in the real world paid off. My internships, my clips and my newsroom references ended up landing me a job straight out of college at The Arizona Republic, one of the biggest newspapers in the United States.

My mom was happy again.

Unless you’ve worked in journalism, you have no idea how rare it is for a 21-year-old college graduate to get hired on at a huge newspaper like that. It’s the equivalent going from your high school baseball team straight to playing for the Minnesota Twins in Major League Baseball, bypassing college and the minor leagues altogether.

And the only reason it happened was that I came to this realization early on: College is a sham.

In Business, Academic Achievements are Meaningless

Twenty years after I’d sat in that classroom and listened to the newspaper editor, I stood in front of a class of MBA students at a local college here in the Twin Cities, teaching them about social media and business.

“You want to land your dream job?” I asked them. “I can promise you, it’s not going to mean jack squat to an employer that you earned an MBA. You know why? Anybody can sit here, read textbooks and case studies, memorize lessons and recite them to a professor or answer them on a written test. What does that prove?”

“Wow, I think that’s the first time in twenty-five years of teaching I’ve heard my MBA classes referred to as jack squat,” the professor interjected.

I figured if I was going to get thrown out of the classroom, I might as well finish my thought.

“No offense, but I’ve been out in the business world long enough to know that letters behind a name mean nothing,” I continued. “Here’s what most employerscare about: Can you do the job? Do you have real-world experience? Do you have great professional references? Do you have an impressive body of work or proven track record? Do you have the type of passion, talent and intuition that can’t be taught? Those are the things that will make you stand out to an employer – not fancy academic titles or degrees.”

Look, I’m the son of two college professors. My parents were all about school growing up. I’ve been a lifelong learner, and to this day I still devour books, e-courses and anything else I can use to make myself smarter when it comes to running my business or helping my 1-on-1 coaching clients.

But, aside from the internships and a few outstanding professors (many of whom were teaching on the side while working a “day job” for a newspaper), I think college was a complete waste of money.

Harvard vs. Hard Knocks

One of my favorite all-time movie scenes is from Good Will Hunting, where Matt Damon’s character – a self-taught genius with no formal education – takes on a fancy-pants Harvard student who is trying to embarrass Damon’s non-educated friends in front of some girls at a bar.

“You see, the sad thing about a guy like you is in fifty years, you’re going to start doing some thinking on your own, and you’re going to come up with the fact that there are two certainties in life,” Damon says. “One, don’t do that, and two, you dropped $150,000 on a (expletive) education that you could’ve gotten for $1.50 in late fees at the public library.”

The small college I went to (the University of St. Thomas in St. Paul, Minnesota) now costs around $45,000 a year, and the idea of dropping $180,000 or more to get a four-year degree is insane to me, especially given the times we live in.

Here’s what I mean: We exist in a world where I can literally ask my phone who the 9 President of the United States was and get the answer (William Henry Harrison) in three seconds. We walk around with a virtual library in our pockets, where every recorded aspect of human history is now at our fingertips to watch, see or learn for free thanks to Google and the Internet.

As long as I can read and write and don’t plan on becoming a doctor, chemical engineer or scientist, what do I need college for? Imagine what $45,000 a year could do in terms of hiring a professional journalist to give me 1-on-1 training or mentoring? Imagine the e-courses, books and video trainings I could buy and consume on my own time to learn my craft? Imagine the ability I’d have to start publishing my own articles online and sharing them with my target audiences through blogs and social media channels? Imagine the ability I’d have via LinkedIn and other social media networks to find, engage and begin building relationships with key figures in my industry?

Class Dismissed

I know there are always exceptions, and yes, I know that some HR Directors or other employers will only look at candidates who have a certain academic record or type of college degree.

I also think that’s a huge – and foolish – mistake.

Imagine your organization missing out on the likes of Steve Jobs, Richard Branson, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, John Mackey (founder of Whole Foods), Frank Lloyd Wright, Walt Disney, Mary Kay Ash (founder of Mary Kay Cosmetics), Rachel Ray, David Neeleman (founder of Jet Blue Airways) and countless others.

None of the people on that list finished college. Some didn’t even finish high school! And yet all of them are among the most successful businesspeople on this planet.

There’s a lesson to be learned from that, isn’t there?

https://www.dhirubhai.net/pulse/20140825231646-43205993-why-your-mba-is-worthless Howdy. High School Dropout here: Our companies are run, supported and managed by talented and experienced people. Not titles (we use none) not pay grades and not academic pedigrees; but talented, experienced and dedicated people. For you “HR” folks out there: MBA's, make you feel you are getting the best of the best for your recruiting goals. Wow, well good “in the box” thinking for you. Good for us, why? Because as you pass up on those talented prospects, we will endeavor to find them. MBA’s do not equal talent, skill or intelligence. How many idiots within Medicine, Law, Marketing and POLITICS have you met? I have the pleasure of working with people. There are partners, suppliers, consultants we use that inevitable will have the MBA. BUt that means NOTHING to us. You, your skill, your human quality, is what we think in the human – in – resource. My two cents only.

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Megan Webster

Consultant at UnNamed Company

9 年

In my experience the MBA did not work out for me. I obtained mine directly after undergraduate school, and that was probably my mistake. No one wanted to hire someone with an MBA and no experience. I had to take jobs in the non profit sector, and now ten plus years later I have no for profit business experience. Finding a job has been extremely tiriring for me. I would not advise anyone to get an MBA. I had high hopes, but now I only hear how well I do in job interviews, but never get the job. At 36 years old I'm now looking at what degrees are actually favorable and thinking about going back to school. Good luck to anyone that is going in the direction of an MBA!

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Steve M.

Elevating Product Excellence and Operational Efficiency for Organizational Advancement

9 年

Wouldn't the fact that an MBA, on the most basic level, has been exposed to the idea of creating value, rather than just being skilled enough to be a SME in a certain area, be more desireable? . To me, as an MBA, I feel that I came out with the academic knowledge that connected my understanding to what decision makers deal with when creating value-creating strategies. It is this education that has given me the potential to see and understand the issues impacting every part of the business. I would say that this may be analogous to the decision to hire a High School graduate with 4 years experience over a recent Bachelor's degree graduate. To me, the difference is the desire to increase personal and professional capabilities. That is big when you want to hire someone that will represent your company and impact your productivity now or in the future. Sometimes it isn't the skill, but the potential that comes with the candidate.

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John - you state that some HR Directors and other employers ONLY look at candidates who have a certain academic record or type of college degree and you think that is a foolish mistake. Your are 100% correct, but that is the sad reality of a job search today. Look at any job posting. An MBA is one of the 1st two or three requirements. Even able body candidates who have tons of the experience you describe, and can run circles around newly minted MBA's, won't get a second glance if they don't have the degree. It's the same all over, and yes it is a shame, but it's the way of the world. So you're MBA isn't worthless. It opens doors that might otherwise be closed.

Krista G.

Senior Director of Marketing | MBA | Strategic MarCom Leader | Engagement Advocate

10 年

I have my MBA and I have to say, it did not give me a big bump in salary (still paying it off BTW!), nor did it help me directly land my dream job. What it did was teach me some serious discipline as I earned the degree while working full-time. The MBA program I attended had a lot of group work so you got the 'real-world' experience of 'if that guy doesn't get his stuff done, I can't get my stuff done' -- we all know what that's like. So I, personally, found value in the real-world application of the coursework I completed. However, a case can be made on both sides of this debate. For me, the MBA was not financially 'worth it', but I wouldn't trade the sense of accomplishment/achievement I felt in earning it. I think it may have helped me get a foot in the door for some interviews along the way, but it is not the 'end all - be all' for Management students. To any Students reading this -- Go work before you even think about earning your MBA! You'll get more out of the program and out of your degree, but don't rush to thinking you HAVE TO have your MBA either. Go Work -- work for free, work for crap pay -- do whatever it takes to get the experience that employers want. John is correct that experience is what really counts - not the grades you got in school.

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