Phillip Carpenter的动态

There is something that is overlooked here. There is nothing wrong with stay with a company/job for a long period of time if you are happy and you are treated right. Could I go elsewhere and make more money? Yes I know I could because I get offers at least once a month. I have been with several different companies over my career. My current employee pays me well and the benefits are equal or greater than most of the larger corporations. The one thing I never receive much when I was with larger corporate companies was a thank you we really appreciate you. At my current employer I receive that almost daily. So chasing the money may be fine for some but, being happy and knowing you are appreciated is what makes me stay loyal.

Well, I am in a bit of a quandary. Even with advanced degrees and three decades of experience, my company flatly refuses to not promote me, but they do not promote anyone. Now I can see some of you scratching your head and asking- why is he still there? The answer may surprise you. We currently reside in an area with a very low cost of living and I have a good salary. If I were to take a position elsewhere, I would almost certainly have to take a $25,000 - $30,000 salary cut (this is backed up with recent interviews) and move (at our expense) to an area with a higher cost of living. So, let me toss it back to the audience- If you are paid handsomely, live in a low cost of living area doing a job that you are an expert in, but with no chance of promotion, would you stay?

This.... only a few weeks after I celebrated being on my job for 30 years.... same local government mental health entities even though it wasn't the same position. But, who does this anymore? Apparently, no one. I'll admit that mine was a little bit of loyalty (3 out 3 of my parents worked state and federal government for 30 years and retired) and a little bit of complacency (I love the work, love the people; and I know and trust the people). So, it's what I knew to do; it's old world. With four years left to retirement, I think about whether I'd do anything differently and I don't think I would. Initially, my thought was that I'd be more focused on leadership/management. But, I quickly changed my mind because I wouldn't be able to own and operate my own business (which I have for 17 years) and serve as an Adjunct faculty at an area university while holding a position on the executive leadership team on my full- time job. Executive leadership would have demanded more time, energy and focus, leaving me with no energy to do the other things that I love. It's a new world... young people, go forth and do the new thing!

What if you loved your job enough to stay for 28 years, and it was your dream job and you couldn’t believe you were getting paid for it? I’m sure I never made as much money as I could have, but I enjoyed every minute.

I think another part of this conversation should be those who advance/change roles within the same organization. Those are the lucky ones who work for a company that offers a career ladder. So, the comments are valid regarding pensions for those with career ladder opportunities at one organization. I think that many people do not have a clear path with one organization and it is not a bad thing to look elsewhere. Another consideration for this conversation is when looking to take on a leadership role at another organization, Make sure you understand if those on the new team have passed the tipping point from being a strength to being a liability. I’ve been there, but luckily I had a mentor who warned me to beware and they were right.

Think pension, people. Looking back, although I do not have the mentality for it, many people work counting the clock and counting the days to retirement. I have folks in my neighborhood retiring at 52 and living high quality lives. Were they good employees? Maybe. But likely there were better employees on the outside looking in. Very hard to remove an incumbent even if they are doing the minimum each day.

I come from the education sector. I am retired but I still hold my national board certified teacher certification. Students really benefit from having a stable person who they can trust in their life and often that is a teacher. I highest level on the salary scale was Masters plus 32. I have that as well. I see newer teachers jumping from teaching position to another and then get out completely because of low pay and every lower standing in society. Now there is a teaching shortage. Do whatever needs to be done in your business world but please support those in education. You need to keep your high quality and high preforming teachers where they are. So many of them will be given the most needy students so those teachers do not stand out on student test scores. Now teachers are having to deal with even more issues due to Covid. Just something to keep in mind.

Did it ever occur that one may love the work they do? Or that maybe they are the individuals that help place new algorithms into the company? Or is it that the current ideologies that loyalty means unscrupulous employees? I have 25 years experience in the optical manufacturing industry and 18 years in a customer servicee nvironment, granted not all in consecutive years. But to assume that your loyalty to a company means that one is lazy ?? is quite ridiculous (in my view). Maybe it because I am nearing my sixth decade of life. We used to look up to those individuals that had been with the company for many years with respect and now someone who hasn't been in a position for a long time thinks that we are lazy and lacking motivation for not switching jobs? I've been in management position before and one thing that I looked for in an applicant resume was the length of time spent in a company. The shorter term meant that the individual may have concerning issues and I questioned the length of time on their resume. But as stated before, maybe I am just a bygone product that is obsolete now.